​In another blockbuster Fox News interview, Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer for President Donald Trump, said there is "nothing illegal about" seeking political dirt from Russians.  


What: "I mean that's what you do. Maybe you shouldn't; but you do it," the former Republican New York City Mayor told host Laura Ingraham. "Nothing illegal about that. And even if it comes from a Russian or a German or an American, it doesn't matter."


Giuliani also said that during his political career, Democrats "were looking for dirt on me every day,"

​​In the same "Ingraham Angle" appearance, Giuliani ​said Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign, had told the president's legal team he would follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump. 


The president's lawyers ​told the same story to The New York Times, which got no comment from Mueller's team. 

Why: Giuliani, who brought a more antagonistic approach against Mueller when he joined Trump's legal team in April, has gotten the president out ahead of revelations with potentially unpleasant political and legal implications before. 


Last month, he ​revealed to Fox News host Sean Hannity that Trump reimbursed Michael Cohen $130,000 the attorney paid to porn star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election to keep her from talking about her alleged affair with his client. He said the payment did not come from the campaign and so was not legally problematic, though not everyone ​agreed.


Trump -- who had in April claimed to know nothing about the payment -- did an about-face and repeated Giuliani's talking points in a legalese-packed tweet the following day. Then, on Wednesday, Trump acknowledged in an ethics disclosure repaying Cohen more than $100,000 for an unspecified purpose.


On the other hand: Giuliani's assertion that seeking political dirt is no big deal is in keeping with the Trump team's longstanding attempt to paint the special counsel's investigation as much ado about nothing, or as the president likes to say, a "witch hunt." Also, Giuliani has repeatedly made statements that were later clarified. In his biggest misstep, he mischaracterized how payments Cohen made the payments to Daniels. The president has denied her accusation.